Comments on: Toughguy.net - Domain Name Appraisal Scam http://paulenderson.com/2007/10/12/toughguynet-domain-name-appraisal-scam/ the personal blog of Paul Enderson Tue, 07 Oct 2008 02:17:49 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.1 By: Peter http://paulenderson.com/2007/10/12/toughguynet-domain-name-appraisal-scam/#comment-36704 Peter Sat, 20 Sep 2008 15:42:37 +0000 http://paulenderson.com/2007/10/12/toughguynet-domain-name-appraisal-scam/#comment-36704 Hello, i was contact begin this year by this person. But 2 weeks ago i was playing with him to send him a email that i have a domain for sale. He sent me a email back to do a appraisel. I sent back: Thats okee.. you can do that and i will accept this result.. Many emails was sent and every time he pushed me to do the appraisel hahaha Peter Hello,

i was contact begin this year by this person. But 2 weeks ago i was playing with him to send him a email that i have a domain for sale.

He sent me a email back to do a appraisel. I sent back: Thats okee.. you can do that and i will accept this result..

Many emails was sent and every time he pushed me to do the appraisel

hahaha

Peter

]]> By: Technology Guide http://paulenderson.com/2007/10/12/toughguynet-domain-name-appraisal-scam/#comment-36696 Technology Guide Sat, 20 Sep 2008 14:51:04 +0000 http://paulenderson.com/2007/10/12/toughguynet-domain-name-appraisal-scam/#comment-36696 I have got the same e-mail as above, and I have paid for Appraisal Certificate for my domain amount of $ 87,78 at namesale which has referred by him. Before, I thought he was a real buyer, finally I knew that he only wants to be my domain broker with 14 % commission. Here his e-mail: ============================================ Hello, Please reply me with your asking price for holiday-in-bali.net. I’m browsing periodically domain auctions and your domain has good potential (in my humble opinion). We are working on software market. Reselling gives us a new income opportunity. Looking forward to do business with you. Regards, Andreas Winski Vice President TNG Technologies I have got the same e-mail as above, and I have paid for Appraisal Certificate for my domain amount of $ 87,78 at namesale which has referred by him. Before, I thought he was a real buyer, finally I knew that he only wants to be my domain broker with 14 % commission. Here his e-mail:
============================================
Hello,

Please reply me with your asking price for holiday-in-bali.net. I’m browsing periodically domain auctions and your domain has good potential (in my humble opinion).

We are working on software market. Reselling gives us a new income opportunity.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,
Andreas Winski
Vice President
TNG Technologies

]]> By: Kurt http://paulenderson.com/2007/10/12/toughguynet-domain-name-appraisal-scam/#comment-29090 Kurt Fri, 22 Aug 2008 07:45:15 +0000 http://paulenderson.com/2007/10/12/toughguynet-domain-name-appraisal-scam/#comment-29090 Here is a copy and paste of the email the same scammer sent me. Posing as Robert Gardos (Vice President, TGS Technologies) Thanks for the post to warn others. **** Hello, Your domain name has been found online. ÿ Please let us know your price. ÿ We make money on selling and buying names and sites. Now the domain business is very attractive. Looking forward to do business with you. ÿ Regards, Robert Gardos Vice President TGS Technologies **** Here is a copy and paste of the email the same scammer sent me.

Posing as Robert Gardos (Vice President, TGS Technologies)

Thanks for the post to warn others.

****

Hello,

Your domain name has been found online.
ÿ
Please let us know your price.
ÿ
We make money on selling and buying names and sites. Now the domain
business is very attractive.

Looking forward to do business with you.
ÿ
Regards,
Robert Gardos
Vice President
TGS Technologies

****

]]> By: Grey Stephenson http://paulenderson.com/2007/10/12/toughguynet-domain-name-appraisal-scam/#comment-28896 Grey Stephenson Thu, 21 Aug 2008 14:51:28 +0000 http://paulenderson.com/2007/10/12/toughguynet-domain-name-appraisal-scam/#comment-28896 Here are a couple more names he's used. This guy is clever. Robert Gardos Vice President TGS Technologies Anthony Ogilvie General Manager EI LLC //On this way he claims to work with eliteinvestiment.net http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/showthread.php?p=923358 Here are a couple more names he’s used. This guy is clever.

Robert Gardos
Vice President
TGS Technologies

Anthony Ogilvie
General Manager
EI LLC //On this way he claims to work with eliteinvestiment.net

http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/showthread.php?p=923358

]]> By: Geoff http://paulenderson.com/2007/10/12/toughguynet-domain-name-appraisal-scam/#comment-26048 Geoff Sun, 10 Aug 2008 04:53:21 +0000 http://paulenderson.com/2007/10/12/toughguynet-domain-name-appraisal-scam/#comment-26048 Hello Paul, I am here to criticise you for your lack of logic. Hotpop offers an email forwarding service. Once one sets up an account, an email address is provided with domain names including yourname@hotpop.com or yourname@toughguy.net. When this email address is provided by a spammer, any responses are FORWARDED to their REAL email address. Looking up the domain name registration for asshole@hotpop.com in no way implicates Andrew S. Hotpop certainly should cancel any account that is shown to be a spam engine. Rant Over. Hello Paul,

I am here to criticise you for your lack of logic. Hotpop offers an email forwarding service. Once one sets up an account, an email address is provided with domain names including yourname@hotpop.com or yourname@toughguy.net. When this email address is provided by a spammer, any responses are FORWARDED to their REAL email address. Looking up the domain name registration for asshole@hotpop.com in no way implicates Andrew S. Hotpop certainly should cancel any account that is shown to be a spam engine. Rant Over.

]]> By: Miha http://paulenderson.com/2007/10/12/toughguynet-domain-name-appraisal-scam/#comment-25813 Miha Sat, 09 Aug 2008 10:02:00 +0000 http://paulenderson.com/2007/10/12/toughguynet-domain-name-appraisal-scam/#comment-25813 Hello. I have received yesterday the first mail from George Ogilvie email Ogilivie@toughguy.net… Regards. Hello.

I have received yesterday the first mail from George Ogilvie email Ogilivie@toughguy.net…

Regards.

]]> By: Michael Kitt http://paulenderson.com/2007/10/12/toughguynet-domain-name-appraisal-scam/#comment-23353 Michael Kitt Mon, 28 Jul 2008 14:32:17 +0000 http://paulenderson.com/2007/10/12/toughguynet-domain-name-appraisal-scam/#comment-23353 Just received one for my domain askyoosk.com from a George Ogilvie email Ogilivie@toughguy.net... Might string him along for a while! Never know I might get him to buy a copy of Interprise Suite to manage his accounts from his scams! Just received one for my domain askyoosk.com

from a George Ogilvie email Ogilivie@toughguy.net… Might string him along for a while!

Never know I might get him to buy a copy of Interprise Suite to manage his accounts from his scams!

]]> By: Peter Oudenes http://paulenderson.com/2007/10/12/toughguynet-domain-name-appraisal-scam/#comment-16619 Peter Oudenes Thu, 03 Jul 2008 12:48:26 +0000 http://paulenderson.com/2007/10/12/toughguynet-domain-name-appraisal-scam/#comment-16619 Hello all, I have mail with this scammer. Every time he told me that i must do a appraisel i told hem he can do a offer on sedo. Here my total email with Anthony Stecker: No deal without appraisal from a trusted source. This simple rule has saved me a lot of money and time. Feel free to contact me when you change your position and let's do business the right way. ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter Oudenes To: NG Services Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 1:54 PM Subject: Re: work247.biz Hello, It is my decision to sell a domain. Sedo is a part same as escrow to be sure the seller gets his money and the buyer get his domain. For this service i (seller) must pay SEDO 10% of the selling price. If you do a bid it is to me to accept it. And i understand i get 90% of that acception. If you thik WORK247.BIZ is intresting for you and you want do a bid of 10.000 USD you can do that on: http://www.sedo.com/search/details.php4?domain=work247.biz&partnerid=14460&language=e It is up to you... Kind Regards, Peter Oudenes ----- Original Message ----- From: NG Services To: peter@160bpm.com Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 11:11 AM Subject: Re: work247.biz Sedo is a good broker and we can use it for transfer/transaction. Unfortunately , Sedo is not acceptable as an appraiser because your names are listed with them and they are not independent. They are interested in earning 10% commission on every sale. I need appraisals from a company which is not interested in selling your domains. I heard many appraisal companies often made inaccurate appraisals. So I cannot accept appraisal from each and every site. I will only accept appraisals from independent appraisal companies I know and trust. ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter Oudenes To: 'NG Services' Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 9:13 AM Subject: RE: work247.biz HI, SEDO is a big company and i use this company to sell domainnames. The costs for using this service is paying by the seller. So, if you want the domainname WORK247.BIZ you can do a bid of your bidding price you told me: 10.000USD. I will accept this offer. Then there is a auction periode of 6 days. When there are no others bids then you are the Buyer. When you pay the money to SEDO, they will start the transfer to you. If that is done I get the money. This is secure and you are knowing you get your domain and I know I get my money. Kind Regards, Peter Oudenes www.160bpm.com De informatie verzonden met dit e-mailbericht is uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Gebruik van deze informatie door anderen dan de geadresseerde is verboden. Openbaarmaking, vermenigvuldiging, verspreidingen/of verstrekking van deze informatie aan derden is niet toegestaan. Peter Oudenes staat niet in voor de juiste en volledige overbrenging van de inhoud van een verzonden e-mail, noch voor tijdige ontvangst daarvan. Van: NG Services [mailto:ngservices@phreaker.net] Verzonden: woensdag 2 juli 2008 22:50 Aan: peter@160bpm.com Onderwerp: Re: work247.biz Can you accept 10,000 USD? Do you sell domain with a web site or just the name? Domain without content is ok with me. Web site is not necessary. Have you had your domain names evaluated in the past? I mean domain appraisals. Without valuation we cannot be sure in the sale price. It's very important for me in terms of reselling too. But we must engage a valuation company with REAL manual service. So I will only accept valuations from independent sources I and my partners trust. To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies. Please check this blog: http://domainmarket.007sites.com/Archive/419570.htm If, for example, the valuation comes higher you can adjust your asking price accordingly. It will be fair. I also hope you can give me 12% - 15% discount. After you send me the valuation via email (usually it takes 1-2 days to obtain it) we'll continue our negotiations. What is your preferred payment method: Escrow.com, International wire transfer, PayPal.com or something else? Hope we can come to an agreement fast. Looking forward to your reply. ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter Oudenes To: 'NG Services' Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 11:32 PM Subject: RE: work247.biz Dear Stecker, You can do a offer by SEDO.COM. When the bid is good for me I will make a auction. When you pay to sedo. Domain will transferred to you. And SEDO will pay me. Kind regards, Peter Oudenes www.160bpm.com De informatie verzonden met dit e-mailbericht is uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Gebruik van deze informatie door anderen dan de geadresseerde is verboden. Openbaarmaking, vermenigvuldiging, verspreidingen/of verstrekking van deze informatie aan derden is niet toegestaan. Peter Oudenes staat niet in voor de juiste en volledige overbrenging van de inhoud van een verzonden e-mail, noch voor tijdige ontvangst daarvan. Van: NG Services [mailto:ngservices@phreaker.net] Verzonden: woensdag 2 juli 2008 16:21 Aan: peter@160bpm.com Onderwerp: work247.biz Hello! work247.biz has been found via online auctions. Please let us know the your price and we will consider it. Our company is investing in High Tech and IT projects. Now the domain market is very attractive for us, since every business in the Internet requires a domain. Looking forward to do business with you. Regards, Anthony Stecker Vice President N G Services ============================================================================ NOTICE - This communication may contain confidential and privileged information that is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any viewing, copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message by unintended recipients is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ========================================================= ]]> By: Keith http://paulenderson.com/2007/10/12/toughguynet-domain-name-appraisal-scam/#comment-16281 Keith Wed, 02 Jul 2008 02:58:36 +0000 http://paulenderson.com/2007/10/12/toughguynet-domain-name-appraisal-scam/#comment-16281 He tried it on me to what a moron. Hello! FIOSDELIVERS.COM has been found via online auctions. Please let us know the your price and we will consider it. Our company is investing in High Tech and IT projects. Now the domain market is very attractive for us, since every business in the Internet requires a domain. Looking forward to do business with you. Regards, Anthony Stecker Vice President N G Services ============================================================================ NOTICE - This communication may contain confidential and privileged information that is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any viewing, copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message by unintended recipients is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. He tried it on me to what a moron.

Hello!

FIOSDELIVERS.COM has been found via online auctions.

Please let us know the your price and we will consider it.

Our company is investing in High Tech and IT projects. Now the domain market is very attractive for us, since every business in the Internet requires a domain.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,
Anthony Stecker
Vice President
N G Services

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]]> By: Bubmack http://paulenderson.com/2007/10/12/toughguynet-domain-name-appraisal-scam/#comment-15632 Bubmack Sun, 29 Jun 2008 20:13:38 +0000 http://paulenderson.com/2007/10/12/toughguynet-domain-name-appraisal-scam/#comment-15632 Thanks for your post. It helped confirm my original thought. Here were his two emails that he sent me: --- On Thu, 6/26/08, NG Services wrote: From: NG Services Greetings! pokerautograph.com has been found via online auctions. Please let us know the your price and we will consider it. Our company is investing in High Tech and IT projects. Now the domain market is very attractive for us, since every business in the Internet requires a domain. Looking forward to do business with you. Regards, Anthony Stecker Vice President N G (The Next Generation) Services ============================================================================ NOTICE - This communication may contain confidential and privileged information that is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any viewing, copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message by unintended recipients is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ========================================================== The funny thing is that I had this parked at Sedo.com. So it could not have been seen via online auction?? His response to by monetary request. 2,000 USD. Ok. Do you sell domain with a web site or just the name? Domain without content is ok with me. Web site is not necessary. Have you had your domain names evaluated in the past? I mean domain appraisals. Without valuation we cannot be sure in the sale price. It's very important for me in terms of reselling too. But we must engage a valuation company with REAL manual service. So I will only accept valuations from independent sources I and my partners trust. To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies. Please check this blog: http://domainmarket.007sites.com/Archive/419570.htm If, for example, the valuation comes higher you can adjust your asking price accordingly. It will be fair. I also hope you can give me 12% - 15% discount. After you send me the valuation via email (usually it takes 1-2 days to obtain it) we'll continue our negotiations. What is your preferred payment method: Escrow.com, International wire transfer, PayPal.com or something else? Hope we can come to an agreement fast. Looking forward to your reply. Thanks for your post. It helped confirm my original thought. Here were his two emails that he sent me:

— On Thu, 6/26/08, NG Services wrote:

From: NG Services

Greetings!

pokerautograph.com has been found via online auctions.

Please let us know the your price and we will consider it.

Our company is investing in High Tech and IT projects. Now the domain market is very attractive for us, since every business in the Internet requires a domain.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,
Anthony Stecker
Vice President
N G (The Next Generation) Services
============================================================================
NOTICE - This communication may contain confidential and privileged
information that is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any
viewing, copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message by
unintended recipients is strictly prohibited. If you have received this
message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message
and deleting it from your computer.
==========================================================

The funny thing is that I had this parked at Sedo.com. So it could not have been seen via online auction??

His response to by monetary request.

2,000 USD. Ok.

Do you sell domain with a web site or just the name?

Domain without content is ok with me. Web site is not necessary.

Have you had your domain names evaluated in the past? I mean domain appraisals. Without valuation we cannot be sure in the sale price. It’s very important for me in terms of reselling too. But we must engage a valuation company with REAL manual service. So I will only accept valuations from independent sources I and my partners trust.

To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies.

Please check this blog:
http://domainmarket.007sites.com/Archive/419570.htm

If, for example, the valuation comes higher you can adjust your asking price accordingly. It will be fair. I also hope you can give me 12% - 15% discount.

After you send me the valuation via email (usually it takes 1-2 days to obtain it) we’ll continue our negotiations.

What is your preferred payment method: Escrow.com, International wire transfer, PayPal.com or something else?

Hope we can come to an agreement fast.

Looking forward to your reply.

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